Diana de Monsoro biography

Answers -, p.: 1 2 3 4 5 7 7 All Lady Melanie: Louise Vodemon Joanna, as a legal spouse, Bussy would have the opportunity to predict blooming measures. And, in the end, just to leave with Diana, as he wanted. Joanna: Lady Melanie writes: And, in the end, just leave with Diana, as he wanted. It is quite possible to take preventive measures, but to leave, that is, to escape is not in the nature of the adventurer Bussy!

I think he would have climbed onto Rozhon here. Only this time is already on a completely legal basis. Lady Melanie: Joanna writes: But to leave, that is, to escape is not in the character of the adventurer Bussy! I remember that in the heat of passion he suggested Diana to run away. Joanna: Lady Melanie writes: I remember that in the heat of passion he suggested Diana to run away.

True, but he, nevertheless, offered this to a stranger to his wife. And here, if his wife was his own, and someone would dare to bother her and it's like splating with kerosene in the fire! Lady Melanie: Joanna writes: That's right, but he, after all, offered this alien wife. Yes, Diana was more his wife than Montsoro. Did it go to her as a stranger to her? I do not mean their attitude towards each other, but an aspect of the legality of their position.

Lady Melanie: Joanna writes: I do not mean their attitude towards each other, but an aspect of the legality of their position. That is, he can take the illegal wife, but not legal - no? Iveinn: Louise Vodemon writes: wasn’t he sorry for his daughter, leave with such a decent bastard? I got the impression that the baron sacrifices the happiness of my daughter in the name of the honor of the family and the name.

Although the old man, albeit with the glorious military past, really not to compete alone with a prince of blood. And he could also ask for the protection of Queen Mother Louise, Vodemon writes: Diana would marry Bussy Happy And something that Bussy could become an exemplary and venerable father of the family. He would have died with longing, being in that capacity.

You can’t fight a duel, you can’t drink your friends in the evening, it is dangerous to leave one at home a beautiful woman. Louise Vodemon: Iveinn writes: I got the impression that the baron sacrifices the happiness of the daughter in the name of the honor of the family and the name. Iveinn writes the same impression: I can’t believe something that Bussy could become an exemplary and venerable father of the family.

He would have died with longing, being in this capacity, and this is not so important even though I agree with you. Either it would be the end of history, or a completely different continuation. Iveinn: Louise Wemon writes: a completely different continuation. It would be something in the spirit of ".. Louise Vodemon: Max writes: how many years were Diana at the time of the" forty-five "novel?

Well, if, in her it was like that? Max: I wonder how much it should be loved, like Diana, to turn into a kind of robot, what did she become in" 45 "? Is this a mental deviation? After all, she remained in her head. I understand that you are a revenge on your beloved, however, how to become so just a mechanism to achieve a goal, for example, Henry 3, who also loved the minions, somehow survived this tragedy, although it did not want it a lot of minions with Maria Klevskaya and Diana in my head, as if something closed.

In your opinion, her condition, apparently, was a consequence of a mental trauma, it was possible to somehow cure, or what? Lolita: Max writes: it was possible to somehow cure, or what? Don't know. It seems to me that in the 16th century it is unlikely. It seems that then psychologists did not practice. La Louvre: Max psyche each has its own. Someone can take out more, someone less.

And Diana actually did not have a close person left on whom she could lean. In general, she experienced a lot from the moment of abduction. And it seems to me that she has formed a persistent psychological dependence on Bussy. He is her only defender, support, the only person to whom she could turn to. Lolita writes: it seems then psychologists did not practice.

And now they do not help everyone Louise Vodemon: La Louvre writes: a persistent psychological dependence on Bussy has been branded. Yes, most likely so. Although, IMHO, in this case, there is a winding of oneself, such as: Bussy-Swed, and for the years, with this way, with thoughts, it is true, I will believe it, I am Diana-a victim, Francois is to blame for all the troubles that, in principle, is probably so for it.

And such a daily self -hypnosis and led to her state of forty -five. Chicot: Lolita writes: it seems then psychologists did not practice. Max, Diana, as a modern psychotherapist would say, was stuck in the second phase of grief: when a person does not take his loss and begins to avenge her - or guilty of death or the whole world as a whole. Revenge, like a life mission, can give a person strength and completely subjugate all his actions and actions for an example, do not go far - the same Monte Cristo at Dumas.And in the case of Diana - only revenge on the Duke, who betrayed Bussy, is able to keep her for a short while in life among people, because she has already died for herself - and does this in memory of the deceased lover, for the sake of him, as a certain ritual sacrifice.

La Louvre: Louise Wemon writes: in this case, there is a wrapping of herself, and also this is her first love. Yes, not to whom, but to Bussy! Any other fan will compare with the first lover and not withstand comparisons, which actually happened to the poor fellow Henry. Chicot writes: Diana, as the modern psychotherapist would say, was stuck in the second phase of grief and why is this stuck arising?

Incognito: Louise Vodemon writes: Bussy-Svyatnoy and for the years, with this thoughts, indeed, you will believe in it, I am Diana-a victim, Francois is to blame for all troubles but, whatever it may be, and Francois in Dumas is really the cause of the death of Bussy: the indirect gives it to the Orilles to shoot the wounded. And Diana really turns out to be a victim, since he loses everything - and a lover who makes up the meaning of life - which is again natural for a woman with the psychology of the 16th century, and not modern Emanasip -, and the usual life, and reputation, and quite likely, the Baron would hardly have experienced such a shame.

So the desire for revenge for the destroyed happiness looks quite logical. Already no less logical than the acts of the same Monte Cristo.

And also about “winding up”: and you imagine, really imagine that the adored person is killed before your eyes and the situation itself: you are connected, in a house full of killers, in a room, in a blood-filled blood, is it still perceived after that life will still be perceived? Chicot writes: Diana, as the modern psychotherapist would say, was stuck in the second phase of grief: when a person does not take his loss and begins to avenge her - or guilty of death or the whole world as a whole.

Hands away from Diana: you can accept such a loss in fact, well, there is no more person, but the loving soul never humbles it, do you not know? I would also try to take revenge in the place of Diana, and not as a sacrifice, but as a retribution. According to your logic, Diana had to wipe away tears and skipping to marry another? Chicot: Incognito writes: According to your logic, Diana had to wipe the tears and skipping to marry another?

By my logic, as a psychotherapist, she needed to react the injury, and then take her loss and put up with her, go to the monastery as she wanted. What did she do, in general: Chicot: La Louvre writes: Why is this stuck arising? The power of experiences is such that until the discharge of the desire to destroy the perpetrator in response, nothing can be done with this energy.

The most harmless thing she could do is to destroy the Duke of Anjou, preferably made in full size, every day for some time. This would be a ritualized destruction of the object of revenge, and not its real killing. But it would help her express her feelings and accept the loss. Incognito: Chicot And I think that her mental stress would not receive discharge without reacting injury precisely in the form of revenge to the one who inflicted this injury to her.

And in general, trauma of this kind can only be talked about with a sufficient degree of conventionality of Louise Vodemon: incognito writes: the situation itself: you are connected, in a house full of killers, in a room, of course, will not be perceived, of course, as before, will still be perceived. However, knowing myself, I assume that I would do a little differently, not like Diana.

In the sense that I would most likely take revenge quickly and at once at the first opportunity, and sit and inspire for myself which Francois-tramples .. I would really not have enough strength. La Louvre: Louise Vodemon writes: in the sense that it would most likely take revenge quickly and immediately at the first opportunity, and if it was the first opportunity?

Still, Francois is a high-ranking person and you can’t get it so easily. Louise Vodemon: La Louvre, not, as far as I remember, she was waiting for her father, and only after his death began to act. La Louvre writes: you can’t get so easily. You see, until that moment she did not try to find this very opportunity to find to him, she just sat and indulged in thoughts about revenge, love, twisting herself.

I couldn’t, this is what I meant. I would start looking for ways right away, even if they had not immediately found Chicot: incognito writes: Chicot and I think that her mental stress would not have received discharge without reacting injury precisely in the form of revenge to the one who inflicted this injury to her. I don’t mind: for her it was the only way to adequately solve the problem.

Just in the modern world, in order to react such an injury, there are already other methods, less criminal and nevertheless effective. Louise Vodemon writes: she just sat and indulged in thoughts of revenge, love, twisting herself. Don't tell me!